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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:03:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Oh for the love of god, when will you people stop complaining?
No. I will not stop complaining.
I don't know who is in charge of public relations at CCP Games, but whoever it is needs to come out right now and disassociate that company from SOMER immediately and publicly. There also needs to be some kind of explanation to the playerbase as WTF has been going on.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:30:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe  . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage.
You really are a shill, aren't you?
What's the next line you guys are going to spew? Here's a good one! "Andrew and/or Somerset can't get on the Obamacare website so they need this extra income to pay for those awful out-of-pocket healthcare expenses." There you go -- run with it!
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:36:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Yeah because god forbid someone has a good idea and makes more money than the average Joe  . Whether or not they need the money for server upkeep, I think SOMER had a good thing going and in a troubled economy like today that's something I like to encourage. You really are a shill, aren't you? What's the next line you guys are going to spew? Here's a good one! "Andrew and/or Somerset can't get on the Obamacare website so they need this extra income to pay for those awful out-of-pocket healthcare expenses." There you go -- run with it! damnit, you beat me to the Andrev / Obamacare reference. 
And the SOMER people are getting so shameless that I am surprised they they haven't used it yet. Seriously.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 13:39:00 -
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Gavinvin1337 wrote:Why is everyone hating on Somer?
I don't see what they have done wrong, they were given prizes from CCP and gifted ships from CCP, should they have refused them?
Everything that has gone wrong here is CCP's fault, you guys are just jealous the Somer came up with a good idea before you did.
UR RITE. I AM FAT AN UGLIE AN SOMER IS PrITTY AN I HAEV TEH JELLUS. 
Yes, it is CCP's fault. No, SOMER is not in the right for continuing to be douchebags. Hence the "hate".
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:15:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I don't see the problem here.
They were doing a legal thing.
CCP changed the rules and now it's not legal.
No, it was never legal. What happened was, they got exposed.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 15:20:00 -
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Gavinvin1337 wrote:Tron 3K wrote:Gavinvin1337 wrote:Why is everyone hating on Somer?
I don't see what they have done wrong, they were given prizes from CCP and gifted ships from CCP, should they have refused them?
Everything that has gone wrong here is CCP's fault, you guys are just jealous the Somer came up with a good idea before you did. I'd agree to it if it wasn't an idea breaking the rules. Unlike SOMER some of us actually follow the rules. Somer's been in operation for years. Isn't is funny that once CCP give them some shiny ships all of a sudden everyone 'realises' that what they have been doing is RMT and 'breaking the rules'.
Yes. It would be knee-slappingly hilarious if it weren't so sad.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:11:00 -
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MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:Kamii Yo wrote:you make me sick CCP. You, and ppl like you, make me sick. For all the HTFU and WOW is that way crap that gets spewed on this forum, never have I seen such a collection of entitled, self-important whiners. For the vast majority of Eve players, this SomerBLINK nonsense has exactly ZERO impact on their game. Please, CCP, don't mistake the forum pussies for the Eve player base. Most of us could care less.
Really? They just lost one account over it -- one who told them exactly why in the cancellation form, too. I cancelled my other account just now. This one will be cancelled shortly. I've been thinking about doing it and sitting on the fence but I've made my mind up.
And no, no one can have my stuff. It will rot away.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:24:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:
I need 500mil for an orca, can i haz ur stuff?!
You can has lern to read? Alternately, go attack another hi-sec Procurer with your low-skill Domi and get wrecked, please. I'll be around for a while while my sub runs out so I'll be sure to see it.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:27:00 -
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Kendra Flux wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
Really? They just lost one account over it -- one who told them exactly why in the cancellation form, too. I cancelled my other account just now. This one will be cancelled shortly. I've been thinking about doing it and sitting on the fence but I've made my mind up.
And no, no one can have my stuff. It will rot away.
I am on your side hun. I am going to stay for at least the release of Rubicon since it is supposed to usher in a new phase of player control according to CCP's word at fanfest and on the site. In view of the fact that you now know you can trust a sister in the struggle I would be glad to hold a portion of your stuff in escorw for you. Not much maybe 800 million in isk and another 500 million is ships, BPO's and any other goodies laying around. PM in game and lets get this rolling.
See, now this is the way to ask for someone's stuff. Classy, this. Still, this answer is "no". I am sorry.
My sub doesn't end until the end of January so Ima gonna be around for Rubicon as well.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:46:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:Viddyi Dukima wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:IRT the EULA...drugs are illegal where I am from but I still dont get all butthurt when my neighbor across the street sparks a J on his porch. I can't do it (work drug tests) but I don't care...It doesnt affect me. But if your neighbor worked the same place you did, and he didn't get in trouble when the drug tests came back positive, but you did if yours did, would you get butthurt? Ed: or if you go with the whole legal angle... If you decided to throw caution to the wind and light it up with your neighbor, then the police busted you guys and only arrested you while praising your neighbor for being a model citizen... Would you get butthurt then? No I wouldnt. Why would I? So someone got away with something...whether he got away with or not doesnt change my situation. Why should I be worried about what happens to someone else? See I understand in life that sometimes other people get things I don't (or get away with things I wouldn't) I also know that I have gotten many many things in my life that most people will never get. I have plenty of stuff to worry about my my life without having to worry about what other people get. I mean just look in game...I know I will probably never fly a titan into some of these giant battles with PL...never get to lord over masses of peons like CFC...never get to do any of the things the really big alliances do...but it doesn't bother me. They have something I don't, they get away with things I couldnt (thinking about some FW expliot I somewhat remember reading about a while back where nobody was punished) and I don't care. I play to have fun and when it ceases to be fun I unsubsribe and go play something else. So far I have yet to have someone breaking victimless rules affect me having fun.
Thank you for explaining in exquisite, minute detail about how all these things that should bother you actually don't bother you. With this out of the way, the discussion can move forward and you can go back to not caring, and leave this thread to the people who do care.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 19:59:00 -
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MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:Darth Kendari wrote:
That would all make sense absent of a CCP endorsement mate.
Face it mate they F'ed up in doing that full stop.
And I am not arguing otherwise. They did F' this thing up. They took a look at the issue, and changed their policy to fix the F-up. They ended bonuses for GTC. But nope, that isn't good enough. The 10-day implementation period, nope, that ain't right, gotta rage, gotta cry. The Whine and Whine and Whine continues. Frankly, I would have been surprised if Somer did anything different than what they are doing. So many posts about they are taking advantage, they are spitting in the face of the Eve playerbase, "It's just wrong, what they are doing . . . ", etc. THIS IS EVE. WTF GAME ARE YOU PLAYING?
This isn't about the game.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 21:06:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Thomas Harding wrote:TharOkha wrote:What is so bad about RMT? Among other things it encourages hacking accounts and stealing stuff and isk from them. ..."ban fire, it burn houses"....Yea thats criminal RMT. But what about legal RMT like running an EVE casino from which CCP receives a cut??
Then CCP should have given them "official" status ages ago. If they had then we wouldn't be in this ridiculous situation now and you wouldn't be coming up with Bill Clinton -esque lawyering to try to make excuses for the whole thing.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:01:00 -
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Protovarious wrote:Frying Doom wrote:And of course not forgetting Not forgetting that you cannot prove that any of Somer's activities have affected PLEX prices? Not forgetting that Amazon's PLEX screw up had more measurable, and albeit temporary, influence on PLEX in 15 minutes than Somer had in it's entire existence? Not forgetting that you don't actually play the game because you much prefer the forum warrior environment of the forums? Not forgetting that you're still irrelevant. What am I not forgetting, exactly? Begone, troll.
The "Internet Tough Guy" shtick was played out by 1997, nobody is the least bit worried by your threats of podding, and name-calling won't make this issue go away.
It's time here, and time to look at other games.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:15:00 -
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Protovarious wrote: If you actually formed a bead of sweat on your forehead when someone says they're going to blow up your pixels, then you need professional help. If podding is a "threat" to you, then please take your carebear with you as you exit eve.
Name calling isn't name calling if it's pertinent. The term "troll" is justified in this case. Calling a spade, a spade.
Got a problem with that? Tough.
*snort*. This is getting surreal.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.02 01:16:00 -
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Protovarious wrote:Frying Doom wrote: Actually EvE would exist better without the likes of you,
You want "redacted" fine. You want a game where the EULA means nothing, fine. You want a game that will die as other players don't want that fine.
Go and find that game, not one that players have spent years of their lives in, and "redacted" and rampant EULA violations mean that all that time was for nothing at all.
RMT has been around since MMORPGs were created. It is better controlled and regulated by CCP better than any game developer in history. As it stands, other developers are adopting CCP's PLEX model for in-game currency.
Names?
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.02 01:28:00 -
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Protovarious wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote: Names?
Wildstar - Carbine Studios - HereRunescape Pathfinder Online
Well, that's nice. I've heard of Wildstar. Hope it works out. Runescape is dying. I know little about Pathfinder.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.02 02:00:00 -
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Protovarious wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
EDIT: Actually, never mind. It isn't the PLEX system that is bad. The PLEX system is pretty awesome. It isn't for every kind of game; and I have a hard time believing that many, if any developers would integrate it into their games exactly as is, but whatever. It is this particular situation that is bad.
So stop trying to derail this thread.
Are you actually reading these posts or are you just not able to wrap your head around the connection between RMT and PLEX?
Oh. so now you're switching gears and you think the PLEX system is bad, mmKay. A few posts ago, the PLEX system was a shining example of keeping RMT in check. Now you're raging because someone on the forums supposedly doesn't the connection see between the two. Or you're just attempting to trip me up with your superior debating skills. Or something.
In actuality, that person you're raging about understands that even a good system is subject to failure if the rule of law is ignored. In this case the rule of law would be that pesky old EULA that you're sick of seeing quoted. If the EULA had been applied consistently -- or if CCP had decided to give some sort sort of above-board official status before all this hit the fan -- would we be having this discussion? |

Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.04 10:50:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:I think there are a lot of people confusing this act as an act of defiance against CCP when in fact it comes across more as an act of defiance to the tin foil crowd that seems to be growing in numbers around here...
"Tin foil" my ass. They're just trying to make as much money as they can before they have to stop, and people are helping them. Most people don't understand what RMT is, and probably don't care, as demonstrated by the misconception shown here in this thread the CCP itself engages in it with its own PLEX system. All of this is beside the point that RMT -- running a for-profit business out of the game -- is against the EULA and always has been. There's nothing tin foil about that. |

Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:39:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I think there are a lot of people confusing this act as an act of defiance against CCP when in fact it comes across more as an act of defiance to the tin foil crowd that seems to be growing in numbers around here... "Tin foil" my ass. They're just trying to make as much money as they can before they have to stop, and people are helping them. Most people don't understand what RMT is, and probably don't care, as demonstrated by the misconception shown here in this thread the CCP itself engages in it with its own PLEX system. All of this is beside the point that RMT -- running a for-profit business out of the game -- is against the EULA and always has been. There's nothing tin foil about that. CCP 'engages' in it themselves by owning the game, and being its developer, and collecting sub fees.
Exhibit A on display in the name of Remiel Pollard - many players don't understand what RMT is.
It's sad, but it is still beside the point.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
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Posted - 2013.11.04 20:27:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:CCP can do as it pleases, the people who don't like that should (imo only) vote with money not forum posts IMO.
As long as this thread remains open for people to discuss the matter, I doubt you'll be able to wield much influence over anyone's behavior.
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